In this talk the attack surface of Veeam and Rubrik will be explored. Veeam and Rubrik are two very common domain backup solutions with various components and they are a guaranteed critical objective for red teamers. Some ways of compromising them will be explored and a new BOF will be discussed for the decryption of credentials which allowed for our red team to pivot through a tightly secured red forest recently by owning Veeam. Rubrik will also be explored as an alternate option to see how it is structured and explore possibilities.